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    Image of Sunshineyness Sunshineyness
    12:04 AM

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    My ultimate problem with 3D so far is that it's not new. It's, like mentioned, nearly 50 years old... and they are still doing the same dumb things with it. It's still just a novelty. When you watch a movie in 2D that was released in theaters as 3D you totally know it because stuff is needlessly chucked at the audience and what not.

    Until someone figures out how to do something un-gimmicky with it it will always be just that- a gimmick. #3d
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    I recall that one of the reasons sensurround was removed from theaters was that it actually made movies a little too intense. I remember seeing "Rollercoaster" in sensurround when I was about 5 years old, and I had to actually run out of the theater during the first scene, it was so scary. The seats actually rumbled as the rollercoaster went around the track. And I don't mean a little bit. It really was like one of those VR rides they have nowadays. And it was LOUD. Louder than any movie I've seen since.

    Reading the wikipedia article on sensurround now, they do mention that some theater patrons actually became sick, and there were reports of property damage.

    Say what you want about it, but this was one movie novelty that really brought it. 3D has always been kind of disappointing and lame, but sensurround was actually a little too much.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    Excuse me, but NOTHING about Smell-O-Vision?

    (also taking bets on how long it'll be before David Kamp gets in here to natter about Cinerama?) #3d
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    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    The real problem with Castle's innovations was the required buy-in -- most movie theaters didn't want to bother paying however much to retrofit their houses for each new movie. "Percepto" only worked for The Tingler, "Emergo" for The House on Haunted Hill, and so on.

    That being said, The Tingler is a goddamn cinematic masterpiece and you should all go watch it right now. #3d
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    Image of FriendlyFloyd FriendlyFloyd
    11/06/09

    @CumaeanSibyl: Nein! Slap Shot was a timeless classic and a cinematic masterpiece wrapped into a bundle of movie bliss that should be watched right now. #3d
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    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    01:07 AM

    @FriendlyFloyd: Yes, but does it have Vincent Price slipping acid to deaf chicks? I don't think so. #3d
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    3-D 1.0 gave me a splitting headache (much like those magic eye pictures from the 90s).

    3-D 3.0, and especially 3-D IMAX, makes me vomit. Seriously, it's some kind of inner ear thing, I literally retch. #3d
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    Image of TedSez TedSez
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    If the reviews are to be believed, A Christmas Carol depends so much on creepy motion-capture 3D special effects that the actual story gets lost in the shuffle.

    Personally, I'm sticking with the Mr. Magoo version.
    [www.youtube.com]
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/06/09

    @TedSez: Somebody really needs to do something about Robert Zemeckis. That creepy mocap stuff, he's got to be stopped. #3d
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/06/09

    @TedSez:
    My dad loves Polar Express, but I felt it would have fit better as a Halloween movie than anything related to Christmas. For getting my Christmas Carol on, I'll stick to one of the two best Christmas movies ever made: A Muppet Christmas Carol (the other best movie being Christmas Story). #3d
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    11/06/09

    @TedSez: Nothing beats the Muppet version, for my money. Michael Caine makes an excellent Scrooge. #3d
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/06/09

    @lionel-mandrake: Zemeckis has become the anti-Christ of movies. Which is a shame, because everything he did pre-Forrest Gump wasn't bad. #3d
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    Image of kellygeorge kellygeorge
    11/06/09

    @TedSez: The 3d can be great, but usually is not. Disney's problem is that they rely on 3D as a gimmick, waving things over the crowd for no reason. Add in Jim Carrey and you have enough to make anyone barf.
    On the other hand, when it is used correctly it can be great. Like Pixar's Up or Toy Story. No gimmicky stuff, just extra depth to the movie. #3d
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    12:28 AM

    @kellygeorge: We're talking specifically about creepy mocap 3-D (Polar Express), not stylized animation that happens to be 3-D (Pixar).

    #theuncannyvalley #3d
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    Image of DoctorEcks DoctorEcks
    11/06/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    Is the Hipster Grifter out already? #druekataoka
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    From the Very Secret Diaries of Emily Gould:

    10/05/09
    Hmmmm. I wonder how I’d look in pancake makeup and a Veronica Lake.

    10/04/09
    Bennett is totes adorable but this is the last time I let anything with a penis use my MixMaster. Keith is going to have to work on his pizza dough pre-doorbell buzz. There are only so many hours in the day I like to clean my ceiling.

    10/02/09
    Dammit, I knew I shouldn’t have let Julia borrow my boa for her "Dress as a MediaBistro Bimbo" theme party. It came back soaked in Triple Crown rum. Plus I think she tore off the little feathery bit at the end on one of her tit tassels. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @RollsRoyceRevenge: You already f-ing posted this on another thread. It's still not funny. Or relevant to this blog post. Also, too insidery. Also, shut up. #druekataoka
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/05/09

    @snugbug: I posted another entry--not this one. I'm sorry if you don't find it funny. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @RollsRoyceRevenge: I'm sorry I got snippy. This whole thread is getting on my nerves big-time.

    I'm not going to claim that Kataoka comes across as a great contemporary art luminary, but the amount of venom sprayed at her on this thread by vile vipers that have crawled from under untold rocks irritates me.
    The comparison to Julia Allison also irritates me, because it's facile and unwarranted except on a completely surface level.
    Kataoka stated down-thread that the work she's auctioning off for a collaborative project was inspired by her father passing away, and THEN the "ugly," "unattractive," "shticky" comments really kicked in. That also irritates me.

    Peace. #druekataoka
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    Image of toblathe toblathe
    11/05/09

    @snugbug: I have no idea what either of you are talking about... and I gotta say it feels wonderful. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @toblathe: Well, ignorance IS bliss, so rock on. #druekataoka
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/06/09

    @snugbug: I was a bit taken aback.

    "Snugbug is being mean to me about my being mean about, um, oh, forget it."

    Just to clarify, Emily is the intended butt of this joke, not Drue, who I have nothing against. The point, such as it is, is that Emily, seeing a degree of notoriety gained by a girl with a vintage look would idly wonder what would happen if she herself sported a vintage look. You're right--too insidery. And probably too likely, but hey.

    I was not comparing anyone to Julia, but then my posting history should show that even if I was it's no big deal. I don't have a problem with Julia. She pretty much does what it says on her label (i.e., MAY CONTAIN NUTS) #druekataoka
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/06/09

    @snugbug: Haha, no one called her ugly except you. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/06/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: See one Adam Spano's comment down-thread.

    Anyway, let's forget about it. This is getting too ick. #druekataoka
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    This is entirely devoid of content. I will now move on and pretend it didn't happen... because it didn't. #druekataoka
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    Giz, why are you helping to publicize this shameless self-promoter? #druekataoka
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    Image of Adam Spano Adam Spano
    11/05/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus:
    Seriously.
    Also, that is one ugly woman, she needs to grow her bangs all the way down to her chin, that way we don't have to see. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/06/09

    @Adam Spano: Gross. #druekataoka
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    Image of onebadclam onebadclam
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    A very nice blend of pretentiousness and affectation, nuanced with a lack of self-awareness. And the Fisher Price haircut is just icing on the cake! #druekataoka
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    Holy crap. I saw this lady at some event when I was in college a couple of years ago. #druekataoka
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    Image of SeeingI SeeingI
    10/30/09

    In reply to Someone Patented Product Placement in TV Shows
    Weirdly, the guy eating looks just like me. #productplacement
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    10/30/09

    In reply to Someone Patented Product Placement in TV Shows
    now that i know that that is a knife.. i do kind of have an odd feeling of compulsion to go buy another one... and the rest of the article... well.. vaseline is a household necessity... should probably buy some more.... (looks at full cabinet).. yeah, definitely need more.. #productplacement
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    Image of smegz smegz
    10/29/09

    In reply to Someone Patented Product Placement in TV Shows
    This looks like reverse product placement, in that they are trying to associate a program with a commercial in the commercial, not the program. Like, take the World of Warcraft Mountain Dew commercials. Or, any commercial that may have included a storm trooper or other iconic film character. By what was written I assume they mean to take this further by integrating storylines from the show into the commercial. Skip the commercial, miss part of the show.

    So, instead of seeing Bill getting killed in the food court with the knife in the show. You see a Carl's Jr. commercial showing Bill getting killed in the food court with the knife behind the guy getting ketchup on his shirt and shoes.

    So, in that respect...this is still old hat. Most major fast food outfits include tie-ins to movies. Nothing as direct as offering plot points in the commercial but you probably get the idea. This seems like a good way for Hollywod to alienate fans of popular shows. I can see it now on a future episode of House:

    House and team are stumped on a particularly infectious hangnail that is causing the patient to break out in green spots.

    We cut to a stark white hospital hallway with a janitor mopping and noting the fresh pine scent.

    "That's the power of Pine Sol."

    In the background, House and team are rushing the patient into an open room as he spews various bodily fluids all over the floor.

    "You missed a spot honey."

    Cut back to the show. #productplacement
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    10/30/09

    @smegz: Thanks, you totally just ruined that Pine Sol episode for me. #productplacement
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